Who killed Simon Dee? 

6 April 2015 tbs.pm/6321

In 1969 there wasn’t a bigger name in showbiz than that of Simon Dee. He was everywhere: a successful BBC chat show, advertisements and voiceovers galore, newspaper columns and even a book of his thoughts crammed with pictures of his life – simply entitled The Simon Dee Book.

A year later and he was gone, never to make a successful return.

Dee had started his media career on Radio Caroline South, where he was the first live voice to be heard when the station began transmissions on 28 March 1964. From there he moved to Radio Caroline North and did stints on Radio Luxembourg and the BBC Light Programme. He was a launch voice of one of the Light Programme’s replacements, BBC Radio 1, and broke into television by hosting BBC-1’s Top of the Pops.

He was already gaining a reputation for being ‘difficult’, clashing with management at Caroline and at Radio 1 – a reputation that would only get worse as his life moved towards stardom and his lifestyle followed.

That stardom came in 1967 when the BBC did one of its periodic relaunches of BBC-1, adding a 45 minute twice-weekly chat show called Dee Time to the schedules (it later moved to once a week on Saturdays – at that time, the BBC owned Saturdays). The show was immensely popular, bringing in audiences of 18 million to a previously quiet time on the network. The popularity became a virtuous circle – the biggest stars were queuing up to appear on the show due to the huge audience figures, while the audience figures were huge due to the biggest stars appearing on the show.

Everybody who was anybody appeared on Dee Time. Lulu, Val Doonican, Marty Feldman, Sandie Shaw, The Bee Gees, Jimmy Hendrix, Matt Monro, Stanley Baker, Shirley Bassey, Petula Clark, Spike Milligan… the list goes on. If you can name a star of the 1960s, you can place a safe bet that they appeared with Simon Dee on Dee Time.

As Dee’s fame grew, so did his ego. The closing title sequence of Dee Time featured him speeding around in an open-top Jaguar E-type with a busty blonde model beside him. The reality wasn’t too far behind – while he was married with two children at the time, he spent lavishly on expensive cars and maintaining a top star’s lifestyle and a man-about-town image. While people who worked on the shop floor with him rarely have stories about him being a prima donna with them, those who employed him and produced him had a different view. He threw his weight as a star around, attempting to dictate what guests he would interview and what hours he would work, what expenses he would claim and what advice he would accept.

In 1969, the still-new London Weekend Television was in deep trouble. Their plans for the weekends in London had been simple. Audiences of 15 million and more routinely tuned in to watch the light, fluffy, common programming ATV had previously put out. Those 15+ million would be given good, wholesome programming instead – arts and drama and ballet and opera and all the things that the management of the station longed for on the weekend. LWT would make huge piles of money from those 15 million or so viewers and enlighten their lives at the same time.

The viewers en masse switched to BBC-1.

To get them back, LWT repeatedly tried tricks and stunts designed to cause the public to tune in to the heavyweight weekend programming (lightening the programming itself never occurred to them – it would take the arrival of Rupert Murdoch to teach them that lesson). One of these was to poach Simon Dee from the BBC.

Dee used the opportunity to play the BBC off against LWT, seeking more money and more power from the Corporation now that he was in demand by the competition. One imagines that he was surprised when the BBC management seemed very happy to let him go. One story, possibly apocryphal, is that Dee confronted Bill Cotton, asking for more than £1000 a show. Cotton suggested his existing £250 a show should fall by 20% instead. Whatever the truth, Dee left the BBC and joined LWT.

It was a disaster for Simon Dee.

The conventional story is that Dee immediately started to clash with David Frost, the driving force behind the new contractor, over who should get the best guests for their respective shows. No doubt there’s some truth in this – it would be a wrenching break with his previous character for Dee not to have swung his ego around LWT in the same way as he had at the BBC.

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But LWT’s highbrow programming policy did most to destroy him. His programme was badly placed late on a Sunday, compared to primetime on Saturday. It followed Frost on Sunday, which provided LWT’s few viewers with a good piece of television punctuation – watch Frost, then switch off for the night.

Above all, the caliber of the guests was changed by LWT. Movie stars and pop singers were reduced, while ballet dancers, conceptual artists and surrealist painters were added. Dee, always happy to keep his finger on the pulse of pop culture, was clearly out of his depth with such people, unable to ask his trademark fluffy, amusing questions to draw them out, unable to produce anecdotes and witty asides about knowing them ‘in real life’. And the guests themselves were audience poison: who wants to wind down towards bed with an in-depth interview with some vorticist painter babbling about the cubist fragmentation of reality and the hard-edged imagery that is derived from machines and the urban environment to produce a radical electrifying full force of… whatever?

Within months, The Simon Dee Show was cancelled, Dee himself was let go by LWT and the dream had ended. There was no chance of going back to the BBC. No other ITV company wanted to touch such a diva, especially one with such a flop to his name.

With a lavish lifestyle, Dee was soon heavily in debt. He signed on for Unemployment Benefit and became a driver for London Buses. His debts caught up with him and he got 28 days in prison for non-payment of rates. His life spiralled out of control and his only public presence was the occasional “where are they now?” and “do you remember…?” filler pieces in the newspapers. He even faced the ultimate humiliation of being sent to prison (for vandalism) by his old nemesis Bill Cotton, a part-time magistrate (although how this was allowed, given Cotton’s huge conflict of interest in anything to do with Dee, is not clear).

So who killed Simon Dee’s career? The conventional wisdom is that it was suicide – Dee destroyed himself and his career with his giant ego. The reality is that LWT must shoulder some – if not most – of the blame. Dee was a victim of a new television contractor that had no idea how to make television. This is not an unusual situation – Carlton, over 25 years later, would debut in London without a single clue on how to make TV – but that it dragged down such a star with it is something to remember.


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13 responses to this article

Chris Stacey 6 April 2015 at 1:28 pm

When I worked for HTV in their London offices on Baker Street. Simon Dee bust on to the office one summer lunch time, and gave the lunching sales team a lecture on how ITV and Lord Harlach had ended his career.
Dee was drunk and is distress, he had been to Thames TV on Euston Road Ulster TV just off Baker Street and was heading to ATV London office on great Cumberland Place.
It was quite sad to see him although we all laughed it was sad!

Paul Z. Temperton 25 April 2015 at 8:58 pm

Although it is generally assumed that the pirate stations played nothing but pop music, a long-forgotten fact is that at the start of Radio Caroline in spring 1964, Simon Dee’s afternoon show initially consisted largely of quality swing and jazz — stuff like Ella Fitzgerald, Frank Sinatra and (a particular favourite of Dee’s) Della Reece, plus e.g. Hammond organ jazz from Jimmy Smith. His signature tune was “On the Sunny Side of the Street” by the Tommy Dorsey Orchestra (1945). You could tell that this kind of music was what he really liked and knew a bit about — so more of an Alan Dell or Benny Green kind of presenter than a Tony Blackburn or Jimmy Savile. In today’s terms it was more KCEA than Radio 1. After a few months, this kind of programming was quietly dropped in favour of wall-to-wall chart hits, presumably because it was not thought “commercial” enough.
By the way, his real name was Carl Henty-Dodd (crazy name, crazy guy) and he died in 2009.

Doug Crawford 1 January 2016 at 7:16 pm

Simon Dee could rapidly research and analyse and his conclusions were then expressed forcibly to those in power and didn’t want his advice. He challenged Ronan
O’Reilly concerning Payola, (payment for plugging records) and told BBC management that Jimmy Savile was a hazard with kids. With great success he directed the floor of his TV Show “Dee Time” but despite the huge audience got understandable hostility from the Producers. He really was in touch with the 60s Youth Movement, and those in the seats of power did not like him one bit.
After one “Top of the Pops” he came to my table in the BBC Club at the old Lime Grove studios. With very good grace he introduced himself (unnecessary at the time) and enquired at great length about the radio interviews I was recording at the time. He shared his knowledge and talked with us very amicably for some time. At Radio Caroline and in the TV studios he was very popular with the staff.
His major fault appears to have been to lecture those in charge
who didn’t share in his privileged social background
i.e. good ol’ class warfare!

George Henty-Dodd 31 May 2016 at 10:49 pm

I would just like to correct that comment that said his name is ‘Carl’, do not know where he got that from because that is completley false. His name is Nicholas

John hewitt 7 May 2020 at 2:56 am

My Dad thought Simon Dee was a big head who got his come uppance! At nine years old I did not understand his show but thought the etype title drive was fab! Now in 2020 I think Simon was quintessential swinging sixties!

Jim 23 January 2021 at 5:39 pm

I heard Simon Dee on Radio Caroline and liked his style.
I also watched him in the 60’s Dee Time. His later fall was based upon his understanding of his popularity and value as a presenter. If he had been on USA media he would have been King and could have done whatever he wished as long as he made money for his network. The BBC had no such need for a successful presenter who was ambitious and knew his worth. I missed him on TV when he left. His forced demise was criminal to both the viewing millions who liked him and those with bigger egos and less talent.

Jean-Paul Antoine 19 February 2021 at 3:48 pm

His greatest failure was his naivety. He thought he was so important that he could do anything. Finally, when John Kennedy’s murder came up as a subject, he stupidly shouted on camera and to his studio audience that he was ‘going to get to the bottom of the lies and misleading news of the assassination!’ One should NEVER light that sort of fuse ! Especially when it was about US events ! A shame, because initially he was a brilliant DJ and showman !

Tim Nice 16 March 2021 at 2:12 pm

In 1999 I was launching a radio station in Winchester by then Simon Dee’s city home. To coincide with the launch we decided to run an on-air feature called ‘Millennium People’ consisting of short interviews with interesting folk around the area. I contacted Simon to see if he wanted take part in what would be, at most, a 3 minute feature. He was interested but his idea of a fee was way beyond our budgets so sadly it went no further.

Steve Gray 30 March 2021 at 9:33 pm

I would suggest that Simon Dee’s story is taken as emblematic of what ‘the Establishment’ did to stamp out the ‘Counter-culture’ of the 1960’s.

The accepted wisdom on Simon Dee – specifically his decline – has the character of a cautionary tale – ‘how the mighty have fallen’, etc.

It is interesting to see how ruthlessly he was discarded, by people who – it seems – thought he was too ruthless, for his own good.

Miles Yorke 7 November 2022 at 10:41 pm

I went to the Simon Dee show and saw my first ‘live’ band, Manfred Mann miming to ‘Fox on the run’.

Kevin Shanahan 27 December 2022 at 10:38 pm

A problem of calibration and tact.

Seems he had empathy and people skills with the supporting staff and was a clever man.

Going for a massive pay rise and the E Type and young blonde in his car image was a big mistake. Cash strapped BBC, who could not chase advertising revenue income ITV could.

He followed the money but should have asked what ITV could offer for his career. The answer was nothing beyond get him to resign from the BBC.

Always have a full 12 months salary to fall back on. Easier if you don’t buy expensive cars.

Kevin Greenwood 5 May 2023 at 8:28 am

Well I suppose all people who become famous acquire an ego some bigger than others it’s human nature.However it’s baffling how Simon Dee completely faded from ,”The Scene”

Laurie Pocovk 29 January 2024 at 6:15 pm

Like one of the contributors I used to listen to his afternoon show on Caroline I think it was called Soundtrack it wasent all jazz but a musical mixture of that and show tunes. I think a similar programme on Radio now would do well.

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